2A Boys Macomb Regional

[Titanfan89]

I saw that Macomb was defeated last night by Orion. Does anyone know what the record is for Macomb? Are they in jeopardy of being pushed down to a 3 or 4 seed for this regional?

[oldviking]

I saw that Macomb was defeated last night by Orion. Does anyone know what the record is for Macomb? Are they in jeopardy of being pushed down to a 3 or 4 seed for this regional? According to Maxipreps they would now be 10and 6.

[tiredoldman]

Macomb is 11-7 with loses to qnd, canton twice, metamora, galesburg, midwest cental and orion.

[Titanfan89]

oldman, do you think they are at risk of being seeded lower than 2 in the regional? I guess it wouldn't mean much if they were the 2 or 3, but if they dropped to 4 that would mean a first round date with QND. What does the rest of their schedule look like? Does anyone know when the regional seed "voting" occurs, since there are no meetings?

[fanofthegame]

I believe 3A-4A girls seeds come out this thursday, and 1A-2A boys come out 1 week from thursday. Seeding this regional would not be fun. QND and Macomb have strength of schedule on their side, but have more losses while WH has an excellent record. IW owns a head to head win over WH. In all reality, I'm not sure how much the seeds here really matter as I think any of the 4 teams could beat the others on a given night. It will take 2 really good games to win this regional.

[Titanfan89]

Do you think we will see 4 20 win teams in this? I think QND and WH will get there, I don't know if IW or Macomb will, given number of losses and number of games left. Same thing with the girls 2A regional at IW.

[Titanfan89]

I have a question. Is there any bad blood in this regional where coaches would put the screws to a team with this online seeding? The IW coach is new to the equation but I think the other coaches in the regional have a lot of respect for each other and I don't think it would happen. What about is it Rushville? Would they even vote, because if not and there are ties, it could lead to coin flips, but I think everyone in the regional has played head to head at least once except for Macomb and WH.

[fanofthegame]

Do you think we will see 4 20 win teams in this? I think QND and WH will get there, I don't know if IW or Macomb will, given number of losses and number of games left. Same thing with the girls 2A regional at IW.

I doubt it. If Macomb is 11-7 it would take quite a finish to get to 20 wins. I'm not sure what IW's record is. QND might not even get to 20 wins before the post season. The raiders are 13-5 now and only have 8 regular season games left. Of those games, 6 are on the road, and the two at home are against SHG and Whitfield in the shootout. QND has really played a BRUTAL schedule.

[Titanfan89]

The schedule may be brutal but by the time the postseason arrives, they know every one of their weaknesses and will be very hard to beat. But, it only takes one bad game to be done.

[Titanfan89]

With QND's tough schedule down the stretch, would anyone in the regional have the guts to seed them less than 1?

[fanofthegame]

With QND's tough schedule down the stretch, would anyone in the regional have the guts to seed them less than 1?

Without a regional seed meeting, it could be easy to go off of record. Rushville may not know anything about these teams, so maybe their coach just looks for the best record. If QND beats WH on friday, I would be shocked if they don't get the 1 seed. If WH wins, I think it becomes a **** shoot.

[guest07]

Without a regional seed meeting, it could be easy to go off of record. Rushville may not know anything about these teams, so maybe their coach just looks for the best record. If QND beats WH on friday, I would be shocked if they don't get the 1 seed. If WH wins, I think it becomes a **** shoot.

If QND beats WH, they are a lock for the 1 seed.

If WH somehow beats QND (very doubtful) and wins out, finishing with only 3 losses, it would be tough to not seed them #1, but I don't think they would be a lock.

[Titanfan89]

Looking at what happened with the girls seeding, at times, the team that knows they will be seeded last doesn't fill out the proper paperwork for the IHSA and therefore do not get to vote for seeds. You have to fill out an information sheet and turn it into the IHSA in time in order for your school to get to vote. There were a couple of regionals I know of that had to go to coin flips because of such situations because there were ties where there were no head to head matchup advantages for the tied teams. I really dont like the online regional seeding process for the postseason, but something like that should be used for other tournaments and what not.

South Carolina just knocked off new #1 Kentucky.

[fanofthegame]

If QND beats WH, they are a lock for the 1 seed.

If WH somehow beats QND (very doubtful) and wins out, finishing with only 3 losses, it would be tough to not seed them #1, but I don't think they would be a lock.

I tend to agree with you there guest. I just think it would be interesting because of you are IW, do you vote WH #1 even with a head to head win? If you are Macomb do you vote WH #1 even though they lost to an IW team that you beat twice? I know you have to look at the body of work and not just head to heads but I just think the seeding could go a number of different ways. Does anyone know what opponents these 4 teams share?

[oldviking]

I doubt it. If Macomb is 11-7 it would take quite a finish to get to 20 wins. I'm not sure what IW's record is. QND might not even get to 20 wins before the post season. The raiders are 13-5 now and only have 8 regular season games left. Of those games, 6 are on the road, and the two at home are against SHG and Whitfield in the shootout. QND has really played a BRUTAL schedule. Iw is also 13-5 now with their recent victory over Unity.

[fanofthegame]

Iw is also 13-5 now with their recent victory over Unity.

Regional Seeding has to be completed by noon on February 4th. Here is a look at where each team stands going into the seedings.

West Hancock (17-3)
-Owns the best record of teams vying for the 1 seed
-Lost 42-36 to IW in their only head to head meeting
-Yet to play head to head vs QND or Macomb
-Biggest loss is by 6 points
Remaining Games before Seeding
vs QND
at Illini West

QND (13-5)
-Has played the toughest schedule of the bunch
-Only loss to a 2A team is 57-44 setback to #1 Peoria Manual
-Beat Macomb 69-46 at Macomb
-Yet to play IW or WH head to head
Remaining Games before Seeding
at WH
at Jacksonville

Illini West (13-5)
-tied for second best record with QND
-Beat WH 42-36
-Lost twice to Macomb, 50-39 and 38-33
-Avenged 1 early loss by defeating Southeastern this week.
-yet to play QND head to head
Remaining Games before Seeding
vs Farmington
vs West Hancock

Macomb (11-7)
here I need some help, as I'm getting my info from the Herald Whig and they don't have Macomb's full schedule. However we know they beat IW twice and lost to QND. They have also probably played the 2nd toughest schedule. I'm not sure what they have left before the seed meetings.

[Vikingfan1]

I believe 3A-4A girls seeds come out this thursday, and 1A-2A boys come out 1 week from thursday. Seeding this regional would not be fun. QND and Macomb have strength of schedule on their side, but have more losses while WH has an excellent record. IW owns a head to head win over WH. In all reality, I'm not sure how much the seeds here really matter as I think any of the 4 teams could beat the others on a given night. It will take 2 really good games to win this regional.

Great post. I really don't think seedings are going to make much of an impact, because your going to have to win 2 or 3 games against great opponents to win this regional. I don't know how Rushville is, but lets not sleep on them. In the regionals, anything can happen.

[fanofthegame]

I think after looking at everything, WH controls their own destiny as far as seeding. They play QND and IW before seeds come out. If they win both, I don't think there is any way they can't get seeded #1.

[oldviking]

I think after looking at everything, WH controls their own destiny as far as seeding. They play QND and IW before seeds come out. If they win both, I don't think there is any way they can't get seeded #1. As a fan of WH I would be happy if they win either of these games. They are the underdog aganist QND and they have to play IW at Carthage. The championship of the WCN conference is riding on the IW game. If they lose a close game to QND they still may have another chance to redeem themselves at the Regional despite a bad seed.

[radiowaves]

If WH wins both of these games, I will be very amazed, but not completely surprised. I wonder how they can stay up with QND in depth and they will have to be shooting lights out all night long. The IW/WH game is the Hatfields and McCoys of IHSA

[Vikingfan1]

If WH wins both of these games, I will be very amazed, but not completely surprised. I wonder how they can stay up with QND in depth and they will have to be shooting lights out all night long. The IW/WH game is the Hatfields and McCoys of IHSA

The key will be to hit from the perimeter. If they are having an off night, despite playing good defense like the always do, they will still get beat. If they can come out with a lot of intensity and hit some shots throughout the game, they have a chance to knock off QND.

[tiredoldman]

I look for them to be a three seed or I could see them at two with their schedule, but it doesn't matter, watson always says you have to play the game in front of you and not worry about what you can't control. But I know I wouldn't want to play them in the post season, with that said they have to start making free throws, its already cost them some games. This is the worst free threw shooting team, macomb has had for a few years. tir remaining schedule is monmouth this friday and then sherrard peoria christian, orion at home,sacred heart griffin, farmington and the riverton shootout, don't know yet who they play there.

[bballjunkie1]

IF I had to seed right now it would go, QND, Macomb, IW, WH, RI. Now I think WH could get as high as 2 with a win at IW and a close game against QND. Beat QND, then I think we might see them get the one. But that is asking a lot.

[oldviking]

IF I had to seed right now it would go, QND, Macomb, IW, WH, RI. Now I think WH could get as high as 2 with a win at IW and a close game against QND. Beat QND, then I think we might see them get the one. But that is asking a lot. I agree with this seed right now because of each teams record.

[Titanfan89]

If WH beat IW at IW, who would you give the #3 seed to? Both teams would have played head to head and both teams would have beat each other away from home.

[fanofthegame]

Here are the simple scenarios in my mind.
1) QND beats WH, they are the 1 seed.
2) WH beats QND and IW they are the 1 seed
3) WH loses to QND and beats IW, they are the 2 or 3 depending on Macomb

It would be nearly impossible to seed if WH beats QND but loses to IW. In that case you can't seed WH above IW who wouldve beat them twice, and you cant seed IW above Macomb who has beat them twice. It would be really hard to seed WH below QND if they just won head to head so what do you do? Does QND fall all the way to the 4 in that scenario? I honestly think anything is possible.

[oldviking]

What is the date for the seedings again , please? Also where would IW be seeded if they defeat both WH and QND in their coming games?

[fanofthegame]

What is the date for the seedings again , please? Also where would IW be seeded if they defeat both WH and QND in their coming games?

1 week from today at noon the seeds are due. QND plays IW after seeding is done, so that won't be taken into account.

[oldviking]

1 week from today at noon the seeds are due. QND plays IW after seeding is done, so that won't be taken into account. Thanks and good post on all the scenarios.