View Full Version : 2010 Central/Southeastern Tournament (Girls)
Titanfan89
12-31-2009, 02:52 PM
I believe they are holding the seed meeting for this tournament on saturday. Does anyone know who all is in this tournament? From last year, I remember, QND, Havana, West Hancock, Central/Southeastern.
klane
12-31-2009, 08:24 PM
I was looking at Central's website and it has the following teams listed: Brown County, Central, Havana, Lewistown, Liberty, Monmouth-Roseville, QND, Unity, West Hancock & West Prairie.
Titanfan89
01-04-2010, 07:22 PM
Does anyone have the schedule for this tournament yet? I was looking at the Quincy Herald Whig prepzone and it looks like the pools are broken down as such:
West Hancock
Lewistown
Liberty-Payson
Brown County
QND
Mendon Unity
Central/Southeastern
Monmouth Roseville
Havana
West Prarie
I wonder how the seeds went? The top four probably went 1. QND 2. Havana 3. Monmouth Roseville 4. West Hancock. Or Havana and Monmouth Roseville got switched at 2 and 3.
fanofthegame
01-04-2010, 07:37 PM
Wow. I don't like that draw much as a QND fan. I know Havanna beat WH already and 'll be honest I know nothing about Monmouth Roseville, but I hate having to play WH before a championship game.
Titanfan89
01-04-2010, 08:08 PM
Monmouth Rosevill is pretty good this year. I heard from a friend that West Hancock got the #3 seed but if that is the case, they put these teams together in an odd way. That would mean QND and WH at #1 and #3 are paired up, and Monmouth Roseville and Havana at the #4 and #2 are paired up. That is odd but guess the way CSE does things.
Titanfan89
01-04-2010, 08:09 PM
And Havana beat WH in game 2 of the season. I would like to think WH has improved since then but they layed an egg in Beardstown over the holidays.
Titanfan89
01-09-2010, 06:09 PM
Pool A:
Central/Southeastern
Havana
West Prairie
Mendon Unity
Monmouth Rosevill
Pool B:
Brown County
Liberty
Quincy Notre Dame
Lewistown
West Hancock
Schedule:
Saturday, January 9
9:00 Havana vs. West Prairie (old gym)
9:00 QND vs. Brown County (new gym)
10:30 Central/Southeastern vs. Mendon Unity (old gym)
10:30 Lewistown vs. West Hancock (new gym)
2:00 Monmouth Roseville vs. West Prairie (old gym)
3:30 Liberty vs. Brown County (old gym)
6:00 Havana vs. Mendon Unity (old gym)
6:00 Quincy Notre Dame vs. Lewistown (new gym)
7:30 Central/Southeastern vs. Monmouth Roseville (old gym)
7:30 West Hancock vs. Liberty
Monday, January 11
6:00 Lewistown vs. Brown County (old gym)
7:30 Mendon Unity vs. West Prairie (old gym)
Tuesday, January 12
6:00 Havana vs. Monmouth Roseville (old gym)
7:30 Quincy Notre Dame vs. Liberty (old gym)
Wednesday, January 13
6:00 Monmouth Roseville vs. Mendon Unity (old gym)
6:00 Liberty vs. Lewistown (new gym)
7:30 Central/Southeastern vs. West Prairie (old gym)
7:30 West Hancock vs. Brown County (new gym)
Thursday, January 14
6:00 Quincy Notre Dame vs. West Hancock (old gym)
7:30 Central/Southeastern vs. Havana (old gym)
Saturday, January 15
6:00 Pool A 2nd Place Winner vs. Pool B 2nd Place Winner - 3rd Place Game (old gym)
7:30 Pool A Winner vs. Pool B Winner - Championship Game (old gym)
Titanfan89
01-09-2010, 06:09 PM
I know that Quincy Notre Dame defeated Brown County this morning by a lot but don't remember the final score.
West Hancock defeated Lewistown this morning 57-40 I believe the final score was.
Titanfan89
01-09-2010, 06:17 PM
January 9 Results:
Pool B:
Quincy Notre Dame 78
Brown County 26
Final - Jordan Frericks (QND) - 19 points, Karlee Gengenbacher (QND) - 15 points, Aimee Kerley (BC) - 12 points
West Hancock 57
Lewistown 40
Final - Marley Hall (WH) - 30 points, 12 rebounts, Rachel Bull (Lew) - 13 points
West Hancock 46
Liberty Payson 21
Final - 2nd WH victory of Liberty/Payson this year
Quincy Notre Dame 68
Lewistown 43
Final
Liberty 51
Brown County 32
Final
Pool A
Unity 52
Central/Southeastern 30
Final
Havana 66
West Prairie 31
Final
Central/Southeastern 54
Monmouth Roseville 27
Final
Havana 77
Unity 32
Final
Monmouth Roseville 62
West Prairie 47
Titanfan89
01-10-2010, 03:47 PM
All scores from the first day of the tournament have been updated. From the first day, the two surprises have to be Unity handing a 20+ point loss to CSE and then CSE coming back and defeating Monmouth Roseville pretty handily. Monmouth Roseville came into this tournament with a top 4 seed and a top two seed in Pool A. I think Monmouth Roseville will probably be a #1 seed in a regional and don't know how much playing 2 games in 1 day affected them.
Titanfan89
01-12-2010, 11:16 PM
Results from monday
Pool A
West Prairie 54
Unity 42
Final
Pool B
Lewistown 58
Brown County 27
Final
Titanfan89
01-13-2010, 01:58 PM
Tuesday results
Pool B
Quincy Notre Dame 77
Liberty/Payson 43
Final
Pool A
Havana 65
Monmouth/Roseville 40
Final
Titanfan89
01-13-2010, 02:41 PM
Updated pool standings through the games played tuesday.
Pool A
Havana 3-0 (wins vs. Monmouth/Roseville, West Prairie, Unity)
Central/Southeastern 1-1 (win vs. Monmouth/Roseville, loss vs. Unity)
West Prairie 1-2 (win vs. Unity, losses. vs. Havana, Monmouth/Roseville)
Unity 1-2 (win vs. Central/Southeastern, losses vs. West Prairie, Havana)
Monmouth Roseville 1-2 (win vs. West Prairie, losses vs. Havana, Central/Southeastern)
Pool B
Quincy Notre Dame 3-0 (wins vs. Liberty/Payson, Brown County, Lewistown)
West Hancock 2-0 (wins vs. Liberty/Payson, Lewistown)
Liberty/Payson 1-2 (win vs. Brown County, losses vs. West Hancock, Quincy Notre Dame)
Lewistown 1-2 (win vs. Brown County, losses vs. West Hancock, Quincy Notre Dame)
Brown County 0-3 (losses vs. Quincy Notre Dame, Lewistown, Liberty/Payson)
Titanfan89
01-14-2010, 02:18 AM
West Hancock defeats Brown County 60-22 tonight and move to 3-0 in Pool B. West Hancock faces 3-0 QND on friday night to determine the winner of the pool and who will play for the championship.
Titanfan89
01-14-2010, 02:05 PM
Results from wednesday.
Pool A
Monmouth/Roseville 53
Unity 42
Final
Central/Southeastern 55
West Prairie 28
Final
Pool B
West Hancock 60
Brown County 22
Final
Lewistown 47
Liberty/Payson 40
Final
Titanfan89
01-14-2010, 02:06 PM
Updated pool standings through the games played wednesday.
Pool A
Havana 3-0 (wins vs. Monmouth/Roseville, West Prairie, Unity)
Central/Southeastern 2-1 (wins vs. Monmouth/Roseville, West Prairie, loss vs. Unity)
Monmouth Roseville 2-2 (wins vs. West Prairie, Unity, losses vs. Havana, Central/Southeastern)
West Prairie 1-3 (win vs. Unity, losses. vs. Havana, Monmouth/Roseville, Central/Southeastern)
Unity 1-3 (win vs. Central/Southeastern, losses vs. West Prairie, Havana, Monmouth Roseville)
Pool B
Quincy Notre Dame 3-0 (wins vs. Liberty/Payson, Brown County, Lewistown)
West Hancock 3-0 (wins vs. Liberty/Payson, Lewistown, Brown County)
Liberty/Payson 1-3 (win vs. Brown County, losses vs. West Hancock, Quincy Notre Dame, Lewistown)
Lewistown 2-2 (wins vs. Brown County, Liberty/Payson, losses vs. West Hancock, Quincy Notre Dame)
Brown County 0-4 (losses vs. Quincy Notre Dame, Lewistown, Liberty/Payson, West Hancock)
fanofthegame
01-14-2010, 02:13 PM
Isn't the WH vs QND game tonight?
Titanfan89
01-14-2010, 02:19 PM
Oh wow, your right, they have a day break before the championship and the 3rd place games. A couple of good matchups with WH and QND kicking it off and then CSE vs. Havana.
Titanfan89
01-14-2010, 02:20 PM
Any radio coverage of the QND, WH game on the QND side?
fanofthegame
01-14-2010, 02:38 PM
Any radio coverage of the QND, WH game on the QND side?
Unfortunately I doubt it. To my knowledge QND girls typically don't get radio coverage. It's kind of sad that we can't get a radio station to cover a team that just had a 56 game winning streak.
fanofthegame
01-14-2010, 02:39 PM
What a week Pittsfield QND on wednesday and WH QND on thursday. Im not going to be able to talk after tonights game
PhotoGuy
01-14-2010, 02:44 PM
Unfortunately I doubt it. To my knowledge QND girls typically don't get radio coverage. It's kind of sad that we can't get a radio station to cover a team that just had a 56 game winning streak.
Which is one of the reasons I really love some of our area radio stations. The one I listen to the most, KMEM in Memphis, MO, gives absolutely equal billing to boys and girls basketball in it's coverage range of Clark, Scotland, Schuyler, Putnam and Knox counties. Donnie (who is featured in this week's "Lucky 7") goes out of his way to be fair to both the boys and girls programs.
For some reason, the Quincy stations don't. I have no idea why.
fanofthegame
01-14-2010, 02:47 PM
Which is one of the reasons I really love some of our area radio stations. The one I listen to the most, KMEM in Memphis, MO, gives absolutely equal billing to boys and girls basketball in it's coverage range of Clark, Scotland, Schuyler, Putnam and Knox counties. Donnie (who is featured in this week's "Lucky 7") goes out of his way to be fair to both the boys and girls programs.
For some reason, the Quincy stations don't. I have no idea why.
The thing I don't get Photoguy is that the QND boys have TWO radio stations covering every single game. You would think the girls could find coverage from at least one station even if its only for their big games.
Titanfan89
01-14-2010, 02:53 PM
I feel your pain. At least Quincy has radio stations. West Hancock gets some radio coverage fro WCAZ when they are playing in tournaments where IW is playing in as well for both boys and girls, like the Beardstown girls tournament, the Western Holiday, Hancock County, and QND/Suns tournament. Other than that, WH gets nothing until the postseason.
However, and I don't know what happened, but there used to be a Keokuk station that covered WH with I believe Jim Worrell. Now I know Jim Worrell has went to WCAZ but don't know why the coverage of WH stopped by that station, and I don't even remember what station it was.
PhotoGuy
01-14-2010, 03:02 PM
It's all about sponsorship... radio stations are hideously expensive to run, and if a station could find sponsors in the WH area I am sure they would do it.
I will come back to KMEM, since they are the station I know best. They broadcast four football games most weekends, even though the games are all played at the same time. They cover Scotland (where KMEM is), Clark, Schuyler, Knox and Putnam (although not always Putnam, I think... but I could be wrong). They play three of the games tape delayed, and it isn't always (or even generally) their home town of Scotland that gets the live game. All this is based on the fact that they get sponsors in each of these communities to pay for the games broadcast...
In Quincy, that's just kind of nuts. They absolutely could find sponsorship for the QND Lady Raiders and the QHS ladies as well. No question about it. Heck, if you can find enough sponsors in Knox County (which is 1/25th the size of Adams County population wise) you could surely find sponsors for QND and QHS.
sportsguy44
01-14-2010, 09:02 PM
I can help you with that Titanfan, KOKX was the station that used to cover West Hancock and in the fall at the direction of their management, they dropped Titan sports all together. We try to pick them up when we can but have commitments with our coverage as well.
One way people can make sure their team gets covered is to go patronize the local businesses that sponsor coverage. Tell the ones that don't advertise that they need to!
bballjunkie1
01-14-2010, 09:15 PM
We are very fortunate in the Pike County area to have WBBA. They cover a lot of basketball games. Mostly boys, but they do cover girls games at least in some tournaments.
Titanfan89
01-14-2010, 11:19 PM
QND leads WH 17-14 after the first quarter.
Titanfan89
01-14-2010, 11:37 PM
QND leads WH by 7 at the half, don't know what score is.
Titanfan89
01-15-2010, 12:34 AM
QND defeats WH tonight 43-39 in what had to be a heck of a game. WH was down 7 at the half and I guess came back to take a 1 point lead after 3. QND retook lead in 4th and sounds like they stalled. Was also told WH had chances to tie game late at free throw line and counldnt.
I would like to hear about this game from anyone who went, sounded exciting.
guest07
01-15-2010, 12:50 AM
Sounds like a dandy game!
Possible rematch in post-season?
Titanfan89
01-15-2010, 01:02 PM
Results from thursday.
Pool A
Havana 36
Central/Southeastern 34
Final
Pool B
Quincy Notre Dame 43
West Hancock 39
Final
Sounded like a couple of great games to see who would win the pools. Havana wins Pool A and Quincy Notre Dame wins Pool B. Those two will match up saturday night for the championship. Central/Southeastern finished second in Pool A and West Hancock finishes second in Pool B and will match up for third place on saturday night (I believe this would be the third time they have played this year).
Titanfan89
01-15-2010, 01:04 PM
Final pool standings through the games played thursday.
Pool A
Havana 4-0 (wins vs. Monmouth/Roseville, West Prairie, Unity, Central/Southeastern)
Central/Southeastern 2-2 (wins vs. Monmouth/Roseville, West Prairie, losses vs. Unity, Havana)
Monmouth Roseville 2-2 (wins vs. West Prairie, Unity, losses vs. Havana, Central/Southeastern)
West Prairie 1-3 (win vs. Unity, losses. vs. Havana, Monmouth/Roseville, Central/Southeastern)
Unity 1-3 (win vs. Central/Southeastern, losses vs. West Prairie, Havana, Monmouth Roseville)
Pool B
Quincy Notre Dame 4-0 (wins vs. Liberty/Payson, Brown County, Lewistown, West Hancock)
West Hancock 3-1 (wins vs. Liberty/Payson, Lewistown, Brown County, loss vs. Quincy Notre Dame)
Lewistown 2-2 (wins vs. Brown County, Liberty/Payson, losses vs. West Hancock, Quincy Notre Dame)
Liberty/Payson 1-3 (win vs. Brown County, losses vs. West Hancock, Quincy Notre Dame, Lewistown)
Brown County 0-4 (losses vs. Quincy Notre Dame, Lewistown, Liberty/Payson, West Hancock)
Titanfan89
01-15-2010, 02:55 PM
Here is a link to a write-up of the thursday games from the Quincy Herald Whig.
http://www.whig.com/story/sports/1-15-QND-girls-into-title-tilt
It sounds like both games were good games if you like defense. Regarding the QND, WH game, again WH goes another long stretch without scoring a lot of points. 3 points over the final 8:17 of the game. Credit the QND defense a lot but again, WH has some really bad turnovers and missed free throws that have plagued them throughout the year. QND also had some offensive woes and bad free throw shooting. Can't credit the defenses for bad free throw shooting but anytime these two teams get together, you can count on some really good defense. I'm curious to know how the WH young guards handled the QND press and pressure.
Could be a possible sectional semifinal rematch in Monmouth if both teams can win their regionals (QND at Beardstown Regional and WH at Illini West Regional).
fanofthegame
01-15-2010, 03:49 PM
Just from seeing last nights score, a 4 point game close to the same score as last year I think, you would assume it was a good game. At least from my perspective though last night was a game that showed some big flaws in both of these teams. Last years game was a defensive slugfest with both teams defenses playing so well that neither team could initiate anything. This year's game IMO was more about both offenses being bad than the defenses being good. I don't know what the turnover numbers were for this game, but it just from watching it seemed like West Hancock just threw the ball out of bounds or right into the hands of a defender 7-10 times when they really weren't under that much pressure. QND i don't believe even shot 50 percent from the free throw line. In the first quarter QND had some chances to get in transition and make this a running game but bad passes missed layup or missed free throws cost them the chance of being up 10 instead of 3 after 1. Neither coach sounded particularly happy judging by their quotes in the whig, and I really can't say I blame them. I did not see two top 10 teams in the state on the floor last night.
The biggest question I left the gym with last night was why in the world Eric Orne refused to play to his teams strengths. Orne is a good coach, his record speaks for itself, but I just don't know what he was doing last night. QND has a huge rotation of players this year. In addition to the starting 5, Kassidy Gengenbacher, Shannon Foley, Kate Genenbacher, Julie Rose, Lexi Nieman, Tessa Keating, and Jaycee Cornwell all usually see playing time. I realize it is hard to play 12 players, but QND really couldve worn WH down with depth and instead I think they wore themselves down by playing 7 players instead of 12. Rose, Keating and Cornwell all played for probably 1 minute or less and Nieman never even saw the floor. 2 of those girls are seniors that played some important minutes off the bench last year. They are experienced and it isn't like they aren't ready for big games. 3 of the 4 have shown the ability to hit the outside shot and Cornwell is by far the best 3 point shooter on the team. QND had several wide open looks from 3 last night but couldn't find the range. Why not put in your best shooter and see if she can get it done? In a game like that 1 or 2 big 3's may be all it takes to pull away.
Titanfan89
01-15-2010, 04:03 PM
That has been West Hancock's bugaboo all year, those stupid silly turnovers that just drive you nuts and aren't forced. I wonder how coach Schuster is able to keep his sanity this year after watching it. The free throw issue, probably a lack of focus and maybe the players being worn down. It is weird that apparently QND changed their style of play for this game, but maybe felt threatened and crimped down on the rotation, I don't know.
I talked to someone who was at the game and they estimated WH turnovers at at least 25 if not more, not sure about QND. But, you know when these two teams lock up your not going to see the game get out of the 30's or 40's with the defenses that are thrown at one another. One of my questions is why was QND not able to contain Marley Hall more? I would have thrown the kitchen sink at her and took my chances with the rest of the WH team.
How often does QND try to stall? From what I heard, they tried doing it early in the 4th quarter. With the missed free throw shooting and turnovers, it seemed to let WH stay in the game. Did Orne not trust his half court offense?
fanofthegame
01-15-2010, 04:34 PM
That has been West Hancock's bugaboo all year, those stupid silly turnovers that just drive you nuts and aren't forced. I wonder how coach Schuster is able to keep his sanity this year after watching it. The free throw issue, probably a lack of focus and maybe the players being worn down. It is weird that apparently QND changed their style of play for this game, but maybe felt threatened and crimped down on the rotation, I don't know.
I talked to someone who was at the game and they estimated WH turnovers at at least 25 if not more, not sure about QND. But, you know when these two teams lock up your not going to see the game get out of the 30's or 40's with the defenses that are thrown at one another. One of my questions is why was QND not able to contain Marley Hall more? I would have thrown the kitchen sink at her and took my chances with the rest of the WH team.
How often does QND try to stall? From what I heard, they tried doing it early in the 4th quarter. With the missed free throw shooting and turnovers, it seemed to let WH stay in the game. Did Orne not trust his half court offense?
You ask some good questions. Some of which I was wondering myself. Honestly, I dont see WH getting over their turnover issues. They just don't have the personnel at the guard positions that they have had the last two year IMO. Jackie Bunn seems to be a good player, but she can't do it herself. Marley Hall helped out a lot, but I can think of 3 turnovers of hers that were pretty silly just off the top of my head. The one player I came away really impressed with from WH was the Jaeger (sp?) girl. She did a phenomenal job playing post defense, but her physical style I would imagine has to get her in foul trouble a lot.
As far as guarding Marley Hall, you can use two philosophies there. The first is to try to shut her down and make her teamates beat you. The second is to let her get hers and take her supporting cast completely out of the game. I think QND tried to do a little of both. Jordan Frericks and Kate Genenbacher got the assignment of trying to defend her. That is a freshman and sophomore respectively. I don't disagree with using those two on her, but anytime you try to guard Hall with a freshman and sophomore you are going to get some mistakes. I actually think Frericks gives QND the best matchup athletically with Hall that they have ever had, but she got in foul trouble and fouled out with 2 or 3 minutes to play so she didn't get to spend as much time guarding her as I'm sure Orne had hoped.
QND doesn't try to stall often because frankly they don't play many close games lol. I think your second question hit the nail on the head though. Orne didn't seem to trust ANYTHING last night. He didn't trust his bench that he plays in every single game and he didn't seem to trust his offense at all. I kind of get it because Leigh McLaughlin is a human press break. In a half court stall she can run in circles and take a minute off the clock by herself, but more than anything it seemed like from the opening tip Orne was afraid of losing instead of going after a win.
Titanfan89
01-15-2010, 05:00 PM
Interesting assessment. That was probably the wrong thing to do by Orne because I think this game gave the younger players from West Hancock confidence knowing that they can now compete with QND. I think going into this game they may have been unsure as to whether or not they could compete but coming out, it has to give them a lot of confidence knowing they were there. I know most coaches don't like moral victories but I think Schuster will take a moral victory from last night knowing that with those younger kids playing they competed with QND.
I wonder what might be if the two teams are rematched in the sectional again on a neutral floor. I hope by that time that WH can at least reduce the silly turnovers to under 5 a game, but QND will also probably shoot over 50% from the line as well. I saw on the ihss board someone say that if the two played again, QND would win by double digits. I'm not so sure of that assessment.
Vikingfan1
01-15-2010, 05:09 PM
The IHSS board is a joke. Congrats to WH for keeping the game close and having chances to win at the end. As Titan pointed out it sounded like the younger girls didn't panic to badly last night and hopefully that can continue against the really good teams. Good luck to both teams and hopefully they can claim 1st and 3rd place in this tournament.
guest07
01-15-2010, 05:13 PM
Come on, guys. West Hancock has been within an eyelash of beating several of the best teams in the state. There's no way they can be as bad as some of you are making them out to be. Can't handle the ball. Can't pass. Can't shoot. Can't make free throws. Dumb mistakes.
If you read these boards, you would wonder how they've won a single game all year.
Titanfan89
01-15-2010, 05:18 PM
Here is more perspective from the West Hancock side from the Keokuk Daily Gate City.
http://www.dailygate.com/articles/2010/01/15/sports/doc4b509ad7a8067766942522.txt
Guest, actually, if you see them go into some of these funks they go into with silly turnovers and what not, you might wonder. The Keokuk Daily Gate City reported WH had 20 turnovers alone in the first half. I don't mind the forced ones but throwing the ball out of bounds to no one, throwing passes where you aren't looking, etc. just drives you nuts. Traveling when no one is around you.
guest07
01-15-2010, 05:31 PM
Here is more perspective from the West Hancock side from the Keokuk Daily Gate City.
http://www.dailygate.com/articles/2010/01/15/sports/doc4b509ad7a8067766942522.txt
Guest, actually, if you see them go into some of these funks they go into with silly turnovers and what not, you might wonder. The Keokuk Daily Gate City reported WH had 20 turnovers alone in the first half. I don't mind the forced ones but throwing the ball out of bounds to no one, throwing passes where you aren't looking, etc. just drives you nuts. Traveling when no one is around you.
I get that they're making a few mistakes. They're 15, 16, 17 year old girls. But they're playing some of the best teams in the state. They certainly must be doing some things right, or they'd be losing to these teams by 25 points, not 4 or 6 points. These are some really good teams that they're competing against. Let's give those teams some credit.
fanofthegame
01-15-2010, 05:50 PM
Come on, guys. West Hancock has been within an eyelash of beating several of the best teams in the state. There's no way they can be as bad as some of you are making them out to be. Can't handle the ball. Can't pass. Can't shoot. Can't make free throws. Dumb mistakes.
If you read these boards, you would wonder how they've won a single game all year.
Guest this is the simplest way I can give my assessment. If WH was as good as I thought they were, they would have won by 20+ last night. If QND was as good as I thought they were, they would have won by 20+ last night. I know it sounds negative or whatever but I really thought both teams played that bad, and the thing is the mistakes were unforced ones.
guest07
01-15-2010, 06:11 PM
Guest this is the simplest way I can give my assessment. If WH was as good as I thought they were, they would have won by 20+ last night. If QND was as good as I thought they were, they would have won by 20+ last night. I know it sounds negative or whatever but I really thought both teams played that bad, and the thing is the mistakes were unforced ones.
I'm not talking about just the QND game. West Hancock came within an eyelash of beating QND, Havana, Pleasant Plains, and Piasa. All of those teams are among the best in the state. QND has played some very good teams, and only lost 2 games all year!
WH and QND are as good as you thought they were. The proof is in the results of the games that they've played.
fanofthegame
01-15-2010, 06:19 PM
Maybe they are if you look at the body of work, but neither one was last night.
broadcaster
01-15-2010, 08:51 PM
Great game by both teams last night. I think that West Hancock is a true point guard away from being on top last night. When they got QND in a half court game, they did a very nice job on both ends. QND thrived in quick transition points wether it was steals on their press or turnovers all over the court by the Titans. West Hancock looked very shaky handling the ball all night, and if they cut their turnovers in half they win the ball game. Until they can take better care of the ball, I don't see them beating a pressing team like the Lady Raiders. Marley Hall was once again unstoppable, but the lack of a perimeter game is the Lady Titans missing piece, and will hold them back against teams like QND. They had several chances to take control late, but it was turnovers, not missed shots, that ended those posessions.
Titanfan89
01-16-2010, 02:19 AM
The concern going into the season was the guard play and how they would handle things. In the first half of the year, they were ok against some lesser teams but they are being exposed when WH is playing the better teams. In a half court game, they are fine but still have some of those just what the heck kind of turnovers. When they play the pressing teams, that is when I start to get a little ancy. They need to develop more during this second half strech if WH is going to make it anywhere in the postseason this year.
broadcaster
01-16-2010, 09:10 PM
At what point in the post season would these teams meet??
Titanfan89
01-16-2010, 10:27 PM
If I read the IHSA website, it would be a sectional semifinal in Monmouth.
Titanfan89
01-17-2010, 02:54 AM
West Hancock beat Central/Southeastern 51 to 35 tonight to finish in 3rd place at the Lady Panther Classic. CSE finished in 4th.
Congrats to WH coach Ken Schuster for making it this far in the season and receiving his first technical foul. I think he was mad because Reno got one last night before him. Also, WH had quite a few players foul out. Not sure what the officiating was like.
Heard that QND was leading Havana by 10 in the 4th, havent heard a final.
Titanfan89
01-17-2010, 01:48 PM
Results from the final day of the tournament.
3rd Place Game
West Hancock 51
Central/Southeastern 35
Final - Marley Hall (WH) -22 points
Championship Game
Quincy Notre Dame 62
Havana 54
Final - K. Gengenbacher (QND) - 16 points
Offensive Most Valuable Player - Marley Hall, West Hancock
Defensive Most Valuable Player - Leigh McLaughlin
Hustle Award - Dawn March, Central/Southeastern
Still working on finding the all tournament team.
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