Rochester v. Rock Island Alleman - 4A State Championship

[illinois sports schwab]

Wow, after that impressive 50-17 win over Metamora, I don't see Rochester losing. Could there be a rare running clock in the state title game?

[wolverine55]

Despite the outcry about it on the pjstar board....maybe last week was the real 4A championship game!

[illinois sports schwab]

Despite the outcry about it on the pjstar board....maybe last week was the real 4A championship game!

That's what I was thinking. QND gave them all they wanted and more, their toughest game of the season. I really think that game toughened Rochester up alot, which is why Rochester was able to handle a solid Metamora team so easily. That's also why I see a possibility of a running clock. As someone stated on another board, "the only defense that can stop Rochester is God's defense." It sure seems like it. Good luck to both teams, and hopefully RI-A will make it a better game than what people think.

[German/Irish_67_9]

Wow.. did not see this one coming.. Last week after the QND game a group of about 15 rochester dads had told me they thought QND could have beat SHG this year.. of course I laughed and said "we wish.." Well, that might look more accurate after Metamora (God's country and God's original football program - so they say) got whooped by Rochester.. thats amazing.. they must have been pretty ticked off after last year's loss to Meta and then a near loss to QND.. Makes QND loook a little better though.. Also makes me wonder how badly my Raiders might have lost if they played that game at Rocket Booster again.. :confused:

I picked Alleman to play in the title game.. they've gone under the radar all year.. But beat Rocky first (before QHS did haha) and piled up some good numbers.. they're a solid team, not so solid jerseys, they're extremely green.. But I don't see Rochester slumping down to Alleman's level on artificial turf.. I'm taking the Rockets big..

Rochester 38
Alleman 10

[illinois sports schwab]

I know it's a bit far-fetched, and pointless to think about, but I can't help but ponder how a game between Rochester and IW would turn out. QND made IW look better and better as the season progressed, and there was no exception when QND almost pulled out a victory against the Rockets. I'm sure Rochester would win, but with a game at Fuzz, you never know at that place, it could be closer than what people would think.

[RocketFan]

A a Rocket Fan that has been to every game this year, I can honestly say that I believe the QND game was the State Championship. Only SHG made us work as hard and it was still early in the season. Hats off to QND for a great program. Looking forward to a great game next week.

[RocketFan]

Go to www.pjstar.com. Thought we complained a lot last year.... check out the whinning now. Now we are classless. Funny how things change when your on the other side.

[bpcbroadcaster]

First off...as an outside casual observer with absolutely no allegiance to either program....there are just as many outspoken QND fans as Metamora fans that spout off how their program is supreme, yada, yada.

I didn't see QND this year, didn't see Metamora. I did see Alleman and their defense is great. However...they did have a little bit of trouble in some pass defense situations. I think Rochester wins by a few scores, but no running clock. My guess....35-6.

[wolverine55]

I'm not wanting to hijack a thread, but I can't say this on pjstar without getting banned. The thing with the Meta fans on the pjstar board is not only do they have to constantly remind you how good their program is, they take it upon themselves to be the police on the rights and wrongs of high school football behavior. Rather annoying at times...Last time I had the audacity to call out the Meta fans on their holier than thou behavior, I got banned from pjstar for two weeks.

In terms of this game, I think Rochester wins big. I think the playoffs have proven that the CS8 wasn't really as down as people were saying. Have not seen RIA, but based on what I've seen from the rest of the WB6, I do think that conference was down a bit. Plus, I was a college teammate of Derek Leonard's so I sort of have to pick Rochester, I guess!

[bpcbroadcaster]

Have not seen RIA, but based on what I've seen from the rest of the WB6, I do think that conference was down a bit.

I don't think you can use this as a barometer in a state championship game. As for the WB6, you have a (4-5) Moline team that finished with over 50 playoff points. Galesburg (4-5) only lost to semifinalist Richwoods (6-14) and were driving on Alleman with 1:00 to play trailing by a touchdown. An interception was ran back with 0:30 to play that set the score at 21-7. I wouldn't consider the WB6 down, in fact it was as strong this year as it has been in several years.

[wolverine55]

It was just a thought. I would be picking Rochester even if I thought the WB6 was strong though.

[Titanfan89]

I got to thinking about what could be if our area had some different draws in the playoffs. IW caught a break this year in going south, but Brown County and QND could have both been in Champaign as well this friday if they had better draws in the playoff bracketing. Shoulda woulda coulda, but it got me thinking.

[Irishmike70]

Wow I'm amazed at the lack of respect for Alleman. They said the same thing in 2005 when Alleman played Griffin in the title game. That game was very close and this Pioneer team is better than 2005. Do you all realize Alleman has 500 students and plays in a conference w/ average enrollment of 1500 and still beats them? Rochester is in for a battle.

[Irishmike70]

WB6 is a tough conference and keep in mind all these schools are 3x the size of Alleman (6a to 8a teams). This lack of respect will only fuel the Pioneers more!

[arod14]

I know its cliche, but they don't play the games on paper. I would not be surprised to see Alleman give Rochester a very good game, maybe even get the upset--but it will be tough, Rochester is explosive and seems to be on a mission.

[Irishmike70]

... Sounds like Richmond Burton. The Pioneers
Rose to that challenge.

[Bulldogge]

All I know is RI is a private school. So I'll be rooting against them.

[wolverine55]

Great, now we're providing Alleman with the ability to play the "respect" card. You know fellas, in high school football, you can't predict a tie. It is possible to predict a team to win a game and yet NOT be insulting everything the other team has accomplished...yeesh.

[Irishmike70]

...And you call predictions of a running clock in a championship game (against an undefeated team), statements that the championship game had already been played, and predictions of 35-0, 35-6 respect? Give me a break! That's okay, you'll be in for a surprise on Friday.

[flyinhigh25]

RIA 32 Rochester 30 OT

[playfair]

My prediction-Rochester in a blowout. 40-7 at the half, with all respect to Alleman...people will think that is disrespectful but its not meant to be, it is just what I predict. Rochester beat SHG, dusted Glenwood (who is in the 5A title game), rolled a VERY good Metamora team and program, and escaped with a victory over a VERY VERY good QND team (perhaps the best line they faced all year). The state title was played in Quincy 2 weeks ago.

I don't care who Alleman has played. I have said it before on here and it didn't get posted. Rochester on a good field is unstoppable, period. If you can catch the game in person or on TV and havent seen Rochester play I highly recommend it. Greatest show on turf. They ARE on a mission for sure.

Congrats to Quincy Notre Dame once again, tough tough team and kids. The people I met at the game were all extremely nice!

[Irishmike70]

You Rochester people have a lot of confidence, that's for sure. Hate to burst your bubble but I highly doubt this will be a blowout. And why would you even want a blowout? Blowouts aren't near as fun and exciting to watch as tooth and nail slugouts like Alleman beating Richmond-Burton 21-20 as time expires.

[mrillinois]

I think that the game will be a lot better than people think it will be. I saw Alleman and their D is stout, but like another person said do have some problems with some deep passes(but I saw them mid-season so I'm sure they have gotten better since then). I haven't seen Rochester play, but saw the raw tape of the game against QND and talked to people who were at the game against SHG, and there's no doubt this team is amazing but I wouldn't count out Alleman in this one. I think Alleman will give the Rockets all they want, but the Rockets will win in a good one.

Rochester-34
Alleman-30

[PhotoGuy]

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[German/Irish_67_9]

Confidence is absolutely what Rochester fans have, I suppose we all would in their case. BUT.... lets not forget how much they HATED playing in the mud. If this game were being played on natural grass, on a cold, rainy day, I'd take Alleman by 3. But on ARTIFICIAL TURF!!!!!! The rockets might be the only things putting up points in this game.
Not to mention, and this isn't a stab at R-B, or Alleman, or SV, or any northern team.. but it was very very very well agreed upon by not just the south, that the southern bracket this year in 4A would produce THE champion. Unfortunately, I think it was played in the mud two weeks ago. Just my opinion. In a game b/t BMD/QND and Alleman.. I'd take BMD and QND in both. Again, opinion.

But thank you Rochester for beating "met NO mora" Those folks sure do know how to make the entire state of Illinois feel insuperior to them.

[Irishmike70]

WB6 is a tough conference and keep in mind all these schools are 3x the size of Alleman (6a to 8a teams). This lack of respect will only fuel the Pioneers more!

You do realize Alleman's home field is artificial turf right?

[playfair]

Confidence for sure! Gotta have it!

I'm sure a site like this would get a lot of traffic in Sangamon county judging by the responses posted on the SJ-R website. Glenwood, SHG, Rochester fans are very passionate about their teams. Someone posted a link to this site prior to the QND-Rochester game, so I decided to check it out! It is a good site, and the posts seem to be quite respectful. I will pass it on. Maybe market it on the SJ-R posts!

[luc04]

Without a doubt QND is the toughest opponent that Rochester has played this year. Their Coach implied this as well. If QND played Metamora at QND on the same field that Rochester played on 2 weeks ago my prediction would be 42-28 QND

[Irishmike70]

Without a doubt? I'm sure you know nothing about Alleman or haven't seen them play. They took SHG to the wire in2005 and this squad is better.

[cussnu2]

Without a doubt? I'm sure you know nothing about Alleman or haven't seen them play. They took SHG to the wire in2005 and this squad is better.


I love my privates...as all people should. :p
Good luck to Alleman!

[Groundgame]

I hope Alleman runs it right up Rochester's @$$. I'm not sure if it will happen, but I don't think Rochester realizes how physical Alleman really is. Rochester's Division I defensive end is going to have to be disciplined on playing the option all night. It's an awfully nice luxury for Alleman to not even have to worry about blocking him. Make him read every play and commit to tackling the fullback. It's a nice easy way to deal with possibly the best player on the field. Good luck to my Pioneers! I think it could be a great game!

[ok then]

It doesnt matter if RI Alleman Plays only teams with 1500 or more students if the teams they are playing arent very good it doesnt matter. You beat Quincy High by 6!! QND would beat them on either field by 40. The MS6 was very bad this year. Sandwich got manhandled by a Wilmington team that lost in the 3a quarters also. This game played on turf will not even be close, whether or not you normally play on turf normally.

[cussnu2]

I hope Alleman runs it right up Rochester's @$$. I'm not sure if it will happen, but I don't think Rochester realizes how physical Alleman really is. Rochester's Division I defensive end is going to have to be disciplined on playing the option all night. It's an awfully nice luxury for Alleman to not even have to worry about blocking him. Make him read every play and commit to tackling the fullback. It's a nice easy way to deal with possibly the best player on the field. Good luck to my Pioneers! I think it could be a great game!

When one of brothers/sisters in law would challenge my father in law, he would say " I appreciate your courage but you've got **** poor judgement."

[German/Irish_67_9]

Without a doubt? I'm sure you know nothing about Alleman or haven't seen them play. They took SHG to the wire in2005 and this squad is better.

The irrelevance here is more than I can handle..

[German/Irish_67_9]

I hope Alleman runs it right up Rochester's @$$. I'm not sure if it will happen, but I don't think Rochester realizes how physical Alleman really is. Rochester's Division I defensive end is going to have to be disciplined on playing the option all night. It's an awfully nice luxury for Alleman to not even have to worry about blocking him. Make him read every play and commit to tackling the fullback. It's a nice easy way to deal with possibly the best player on the field. Good luck to my Pioneers! I think it could be a great game!

Oh man.. where to begin. If this is what you think will beat Rochester you're sadly, sadly, and even more sadly mistaken. That team is a SHOW. As in more than one outstanding athlete. As in that entire defense is why they're that good. If their team speed alone doesn't beat Alleman, than their ability to score 4 times a quarter will. And if all of that doesn't stop Alleman, they'll cause 4 turnovers and make it embarrassing. I'm not a Rocket fan, nor am I really that fond of the program. But you have to give respect to the 4A team that puts Metamora to bed and hangs a 50 over their heads. Sorry Alleman, but unless you can pull a freak snow storm out of your backsides I'm just not seeing this one being close. That D end you speak of (#34) wasn't even what gave QND fits, it was their entire team.

[playfair]

Oh man.. where to begin. If this is what you think will beat Rochester you're sadly, sadly, and even more sadly mistaken. That team is a SHOW. As in more than one outstanding athlete. As in that entire defense is why they're that good. If their team speed alone doesn't beat Alleman, than their ability to score 4 times a quarter will. And if all of that doesn't stop Alleman, they'll cause 4 turnovers and make it embarrassing. I'm not a Rocket fan, nor am I really that fond of the program. But you have to give respect to the 4A team that puts Metamora to bed and hangs a 50 over their heads. Sorry Alleman, but unless you can pull a freak snow storm out of your backsides I'm just not seeing this one being close. That D end you speak of (#34) wasn't even what gave QND fits, it was their entire team.

Couldn't have said it better myself. You don't think that team (Rochester) will be prepared for that option??? I KNOW Alleman doesn't have the running capabilities of QND (all state RB and one hell of a line) and Metamora who has made a living in Champagne from their running offense. Let alone the Central State 8 Conferences running games. HA!

Best of luck to Alleman though! Great season thus far!

[Irishmike70]

EDITED by Photoguy to remove inflamitory and attacking language about fellow users: , but since you are all into comparisons and you consider Quincy Notre Dame your top opponent and consider that having already been your championship game (EDITED), consider this:

QND gets beat by Richwoods early in the season 14-20.

Galeseburg, a 4-5 team (from the lowly WB6) had Richwoods on the rope and barely got beat. Alleman handled Galesburg and the rest of the tough WB6 including perennial power Rock Island, who sported an all conference 6-3, 230 lb fullback and the fastest player ever clocked at the school (Chris Glover, 4.3 40 yard dash). The Alleman D neutralized both these players.

I assume the Rockets run a spread offense?

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[Bulldogge]

I've seen some film of Alleman and they must have some grit in em to make it this far, but from what I saw they weren't real impressive for a 4A team. I'll take the Rockets by 3 TDs.

[ok then]

QHS lost to Galesburg and Galesburg almost beat RIHS, all this says to me is that the league was full of mediocrity. There was only 1 playoff win in the conference other than Alleman this year and that was RI with and overtime win against a 5-4 team. Looking at playing larger teams, Rochester beat a team playing in the 5a championship by 4 TD's!

[Groundgame]

That D end you speak of (#34) wasn't even what gave QND fits, it was their entire team.

Football is a team game? No way! I'm not saying Alleman will win this game... but because of the mentality Rochester fans have had on this board (as well as others), I hope Alleman does exactly what I said earlier. Run the ball right up their @$$! I have not seen Rochester play this year, but I have seen 3 of Alleman's playoff games this year. And I promise this to all Rochester fans... They will be ready for this game. Alleman does not have any Division I players on their team. They don't start one player on either line weighing over 250. They don't have any players that will beat anyone in a foot race. But they move the ball on offense and will smack you on defense. They play hard, and they are fundamentally prepared. i truly hope Rochester players come into Friday nights game with the type of arrogance the fans have. Because when they catch the ball out of their spread offense, they are going to have a whole bunch of solid built, tough kids hitting them over and over. And taking hits in 28 degree weather, over and over again, isn't going to feel very good on the body. I think you all may be forgetting that there is another 13-0 team planning on keeping that zero in their record by the time they leave Champaign. Good luck to both teams.

[luc04]

Without a doubt? I'm sure you know nothing about Alleman or haven't seen them play. They took SHG to the wire in2005 and this squad is better.


Read the post again IrishMike! I said " the toughest team they have played this year" Rochester has NOT played Alleman now have they?

[luc04]

QHS lost to Galesburg and Galesburg almost beat RIHS, all this says to me is that the league was full of mediocrity. There was only 1 playoff win in the conference other than Alleman this year and that was RI with and overtime win against a 5-4 team. Looking at playing larger teams, Rochester beat a team playing in the 5a championship by 4 TD's!

And to add to this quote. The 5A team that Rochester beat handily in week 7 is the same 5A team that dismantled Peoria Richwoods Saturday!

[luc04]

If Alleman is better than QND then Rochester may be in trouble. I just dont think they are better than QND.

[luc04]

Because when they catch the ball out of their spread offense, they are going to have a whole bunch of solid built, tough kids hitting them over and over. And taking hits in 28 degree weather, over and over again, isn't going to feel very good on the body. I think you all may be forgetting that there is another 13-0 team planning on keeping that zero in their record by the time they leave Champaign. Good luck to both teams.

What do you think Rochester is going to do in the 28 degree weather? Stand there and bleed? No they will hit back! They will also be ready for what Alleman offers. Dont take offense to Rochester being the favorite in this game, you should believe that RIA will win. But the people who are saying that Rochester will win are people that have played Rochester and know what type of team they are. QND will tell you that Rochester is a big fast tough defensive team that flows to the ball very well. Metamora will tell you that Rochester passing game can score from anywhere on the field at anytime! Effingham will tell you that Rochester's running game is unstoppable. That is why Rochester is so tough, they can do it all and have proven it to two of the BEST teams in the State of Illinois.

[fanofthegame]

Alleman folks, if you think you are going to surprise Rochester by hitting them hard you are sadly mistaken. This is not a spread finesse team that wins games in one way. The Rochester machine starts with a phenomenal coaching staff. Derek Leonard's offense is fun to watch. Their defensive coordinator was almost directly above me at the QND game, and I can't tell you the amount of times he called out the exact play we were going to run before we ran it. It was one of the best scouting jobs I have ever witnessed. On the field, their success starts with their lines. They dominated SHG on both sides of the ball earlier this year, and they did a very good job against QND on both lines too. The defensive line is tall with speed on the ends and beef in the middle. At linebacker, Dan Camp is one of the best playmakers with a nose for the ball that I have seen in a long time. Offensively, they may run the spread, but Colton Glazebrook is the guy to watch out for. If you stop him than Lunt will pick you apart anyway.

Basically, Rochester is a well oiled machine that doesn't make mistakes. As far as I know Alleman didn't see a spread team with good passing ability in the WB6. You absolutely cannot be ready for this team without seeing their offense in person before. I see Rochester taking an early lead, forcing Alleman out of their comfort zone of running the ball, and piling on from there. 45-10 Rockets.

Good luck to Rochester from this Raider fan.

[playfair]

It's unfortunate Alleman fans mistake what we've seen Rochester's football team do and capable of doing as arrogance. I am sorry if you think we are arrogant, but all I am saying is that this Rochester team is capable of putting a running clock in the title game against this team based on what we/I have seen. Naturally, I don't expect you to agree or want to agree...just stating factual evidence based opinions here. I have been around high school football for a LONG time, saw your 2005 team against SHG, saw SHG's other state title teams, saw Glenwood's state title team and I am not blowing my prediction, analysis, and capabilities of this team over board. This team is machine and the best middle class football team I have seen, ever. It's a shame you see it as arrogance. That team eats it's share of humble pie, they take no one for granted...they play to win as I am sure Alleman will too.

[Groundgame]

Well I appreciate your honest opinion. I have heard the same thing from outside sources, but have heard a lot of other arrogant comments as well. I understand Alleman is clearly the underdog in this matchup. I've seen Metamora play this season, and any team capable of doing what they did to them has to be outstanding. In all honestly, I do not think Alleman will stand a chance in this game unless they find a way to shut down the passing game. I think they will do a nice job limiting the big plays, much like they did against SHG in '05. That doesn't mean Rochester will not be able to hit their short passing game repeatedly however. Unfortunately, Alleman will not be able to score enough if this happens. As an Alleman fan, I'm hoping to win the turnover battle and hopefully keep the ball out of their hands.

[Groundgame]

Oh and by the way... the one bonus about Rochester fans being so confident is not having to hear all of the B.S. about Alleman having the catholic school advantage. Every other team they have dismantled on the way to the title game has made sure to make that point...

[mrillinois]

EDITED by Photoguy to remove inflamitory and attacking language about fellow users: , but since you are all into comparisons and you consider Quincy Notre Dame your top opponent and consider that having already been your championship game (EDITED), consider this:

QND gets beat by Richwoods early in the season 14-20.

Galeseburg, a 4-5 team (from the lowly WB6) had Richwoods on the rope and barely got beat. Alleman handled Galesburg and the rest of the tough WB6 including perennial power Rock Island, who sported an all conference 6-3, 230 lb fullback and the fastest player ever clocked at the school (Chris Glover, 4.3 40 yard dash). The Alleman D neutralized both these players.

I assume the Rockets run a spread offense?

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I was at the QHS game, and Alleman did not "handle" them by any means. QHS beat themselves by stupid penalties and turnovers.......and the score was 13-6, not really "handling", just thought I would point that out for ya.

[playfair]

Oh and by the way... the one bonus about Rochester fans being so confident is not having to hear all of the B.S. about Alleman having the catholic school advantage. Every other team they have dismantled on the way to the title game has made sure to make that point...

Yeah, I don't think private school factor matters to Rochester people. As you may or may not know our Head Coach is an SHG alum and son of SHG Head Coach. The teams spend a lot of off season time together and root for each other. Also, with the SHG program dominance in our area, we're used to it. Also, playing the likes of Bloomington Central Catholic and QND over the years (QND put their licks on us for years by the way when our program was just started by the way) has conditioned our community and teams to have no prejeduce towards private schools. If anything its adds to the motivation cause private school programs are usually great!

[Irishmike70]

Don't get me wrong, I mean no disrespect here. Your team is obviously very impressive and will pose a great challenge to Alleman. I'm actually very excited to see the spread offense because you're right, we don't see it in the WB6. You should be proud of your team as you obviously are.

Having said that, Alleman does have a history of playing well against passing teams in the playoffs. They've beaten Riverside Brookfield and Johnsburg several times (both run the spread), and took SHG to the wire in 2005 in the state title game.

I just didn't care much for the arrogance and lack of respect for a fellow unbeaten team in a championship game. Alleman doesn't bring the D-1 talent, but these kids have played together since grade school, they will be prepared, they hit hard, and the coaching staff makes excellent adjustments.

I'm hoping for a good game and that no players on either side get injured. May the best team win.

[illinois sports schwab]

I think the key to this game for Alleman is that they need to get a lead early. For max effect, they need to have a lead going into the 2nd half. If they can do this, Rochester will most likely start to pass more. Although they are a great passing team, I think that if the Alleman ends and blitzing backers can get some pressure on him or a few sacks, they will get flustered and start to rush things. I think if those scenarios don't happen, Alleman could be in some real trouble and find themselves playing from behind for most of the game.

[PhotoGuy]

I think the key to this game for Alleman is that they need to get a lead early. For max effect, they need to have a lead going into the 2nd half. If they can do this, Rochester will most likely start to pass more. Although they are a great passing team, I think that if the Alleman ends and blitzing backers can get some pressure on him or a few sacks, they will get flustered and start to rush things. I think if those scenarios don't happen, Alleman could be in some real trouble and find themselves playing from behind for most of the game.

One thing to keep in mind. Right now, game time wind forecasts call for an 18MPH breeze from the west, with gusts up to 28MPH.

If that doesn't change, it could cause a lot of wind swirling inside the stadium. Fortunately, the stadium runs north/south and the stands will block a lot of the breeze at game level, but it still will make longer passes difficult.

[German/Irish_67_9]

Oh and by the way... the one bonus about Rochester fans being so confident is not having to hear all of the B.S. about Alleman having the catholic school advantage. Every other team they have dismantled on the way to the title game has made sure to make that point...

I hope you aren't thinking that us QND folk aren't used to THIS kind of taunting. Rochester is just a rare case of a team that strives on beating the best. Whether that mean a private school or a public school. And lately, in 4A, the private schools (BCC, QND, BMD, A-D) have been among the top tier. So, naturally they strive to beat those schools. I know QND goes out and finds games to play based on how tough they'll be. I would have to assume the same for Rochester and the others. No hatred b/t the two just great talent and great games. Now, as for some of the other public schools (which shall remain nameless) the feelings aren't so mutual. I don't think anyone is trying to be arrogant about the game this weekend. Just aware of the carnage Rochester can produce in such a short time. Like, in case you haven't heard yet Alleman fans, Rochester runs a FAST FAST FAST offense. They move quickly, get plays in quickly and they're off to the races. IT's almost like they're goal is 35 pts in 12 minutes or something..

***** Rochester fans need to get on the horn with Derek Leonard who needs to mention to his father (Ken Leonard) that QND really wants to play SHG.. seriously.. I think it'd be worth seeing. *****

[Irishmike70]

Thanks for that last post. I understand Rochester's offense is quick scoring and scary and I respect that. But you all should also respect how rare a shutout is in a semifinal game. This Pioneer D is much better than the D that faced SHG in 2005. And the offense the Pioneers have run effectively all year is almost like playing defense. They frustrate teams with long methodical drives that kill the clock and keep dangerous offenses off balance. Alleman has 4-5 capable ball carriers at all times.

[Groundgame]

Just aware of the carnage Rochester can produce in such a short time. Like, in case you haven't heard yet Alleman fans, Rochester runs a FAST FAST FAST offense. They move quickly, get plays in quickly and they're off to the races. IT's almost like they're goal is 35 pts in 12 minutes or something..

Ok I respect Rochester's offense, and the fact they beat your beloved QND... But seriously... EDITED BY PHOTOGUY TO REMOVE PORNOGRAPHIC REFERENCE I know Rochester players need to get up for this game, but this may be taking things a little too far! And my comment about the private school thing had nothing to do with QND. Instead, it was a compliment to Rochester fans for not bringing up the issue. I appreciate the Rochester fans comments on this board. They're honest and confident. They should be after dismantling Metamora last week and only losing 1 game the previous two seasons. EDITED BY PHOTOGUY TO REMOVE PORNOGRAPHIC REFERENCE

Irishmike is correct in his statement as well. Alleman's defense is phenomenal this season. I'm not sure if they are built to deal with Rochester's spread offense or not, but they are capable of winning this game if the ball bounces the right way. An early turnover, a couple of stalled drives. If something were to happen to allow Alleman to start playing their style of football, and this game all of a sudden could be a battle. If not, then the running clock could begin. It will be a long game if Alleman has to resort to playing catch up.

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[playfair]

SHG Vs. QND would be a great non-conference for Quincy ND. Maybe all the gold helmets on the field at once is just too much to handle:cool:

[luc04]

SHG Vs. QND would be a great non-conference for Quincy ND. Maybe all the gold helmets on the field at once is just too much to handle:cool:


Agree! It would also be nice for the CS8/9 to extend an invitation to QND to join the conference. What a powerhouse conference it would be then! Rochester / SHG / Chatham / Springfield / Jacksonville / QND! WOW!

[playfair]

Agree! It would also be nice for the CS8/9 to extend an invitation to QND to join the conference. What a powerhouse conference it would be then! Rochester / SHG / Chatham / Springfield / Jacksonville / QND! WOW!

Wow is right! That would conference would be scary! Powerhouse conference would be an understatement, LOL! One thing that sucked for the CS8 football teams in 5A was that they all knocked each other out...would have liked to see them play teams other than themsleves! Quincy is a little too far though I would say:( All CS8 (9) teams are within a 40 mins drive of one another.;)

[luc04]

Wow is right! That would conference would be scary! Powerhouse conference would be an understatement, LOL! One thing that sucked for the CS8 football teams in 5A was that they all knocked each other out...would have liked to see them play teams other than themsleves! Quincy is a little too far though I would say:( All CS8 (9) teams are within a 40 mins drive of one another.;)


Actually Taylorville travels an hour or more to Lincoln and Jacksonville. A 2 hour drive once every other year would not be too bad. I cant think of any other school to join besides Mt Zion and we all know that they are scared of competition.

[cussnu2]

QND already plays a lot of those teams in other sports right now.
Soccer
Wed. 25 @ Chatham Glenwood 0-0 tie
Sat. 28 vs. Springfield L 2 - 4
Wed. 01 vs. Sacred Heart-Griffin W 3 - 1
Sat. 25 @ Jacksonville L 0 - 1
Sat. 02 @ Mid-State Classic vs Sacred Heart Griffin L 1 - 3

Girls Soccer
Tue. 13 @ Chatham Glenwood L 1 - 2
Fri. 23 @ SHG Tourney vs Jacksonville W 7 - 0
Wed. 05 vs. Jacksonville W 2 - 1
Fri. 07 @ QND Tournament vs SHG W 4 - 2

Girls Basketball
Thu. 02 Springfield 5:30 pm JV-V QND
Sat. 04 Sacred Heart Griffin 3:00 pm JV-V QND
Plus I think at least one CS8 plays in the Carrolton tournament

Boys Basketball
Sat. 15 Jacksonville 6:00 pm JV-V QND
Tue. 08 Sacred Heart Griffin 5:30 pm and 7:00 pm Springfield

Volleyball
Thu. 16 vs. Jacksonville QND Loses 25-22 & 25-22
Thu. 23 vs. Sacred Heart Griffin QND wins 25-18, 25-19
Sat. 09 vs. QHS Invitational vs Jacksonville QND loses 25-11, 27-25
Sat. 23 @ QND Tourney vs Chatham Glenwood QND wins 25-22, 25-18

Boys Baseball
Sat. 02 Jacksonville 11:00 am V-DH QND
Mon. 18 Sacred Heart Griffin 4:30 pm V-JV QND
Mon. 09 Chatham Glenwood 4:30 pm V-JV QND

Girls Softball
Tue. 22 Sacred Heart Griffin 4:15 pm V-JV QND
Sat. 23 Cluster II vs Jacksonville 10:00 am QND

Cross Country
Tue. 31 @ Jacksonville 4:30 pm
Sat. 11 @ Spingfield Lanphier Invitational 9:00 am
Wed. 27 @ Lanphier JV Invitational 4:00 pm

Girls Golf
Thu. 19 vs. QHS & Springfield 4:00 pm

Boys Tennis
Thu. 01 @ Springfield 4:00 pm
Mon. 05 @ Springfield Southeast 4:00 pm
Tue. 13 @ Jacksonville 4:15 pm
Thu. 15 vs. Sacred Heart Griffin 4:00 pm
Thu. 29 vs. Rochester 4:30 pm
Wed. 05 @ Chatham Glenwood W 4 - 2
Sat. 08 @ Glenwood Invite 8:00 am


Wrestling
Tue. 07 Springfield w/ Rochester 6:00 pm Springfield
Sat. 22 Jacksonville JV Tourney 9:30 am Jacksonville
Wed. 26 Macomb w/ Jacksonville 6:00 pm Macomb

Girls tennis
Thu. 09 @ Sacred Heart Griffin 4:30 pm
Thu. 23 vs. Jacksonville W 5 - 4
Wed. 06 vs. Springfield 4:30 pm

Boys Golf
Tue. 07 @ Jacksonville & Springfield Southeast 4:15 pm

[Irishmike70]

I'm hoping for a good game and no bad injuries on either side. You Rochester fans certainly have something to be proud of, and obviously you are. Hope the team did not take the Pioneers lightly and assume a victory (like the comments on this board do) because Alleman will be prepared and be there to play. No brash predictions from me like the ones I've seen on here; I'm proud of the Pioneers and I'm sure they will bring their best tonight.

[The Irish Swede]

All I know is RI is a private school. So I'll be rooting against them.

Brilliant.

[The Irish Swede]

Great, now we're providing Alleman with the ability to play the "respect" card. You know fellas, in high school football, you can't predict a tie. It is possible to predict a team to win a game and yet NOT be insulting everything the other team has accomplished...yeesh.

Very nice to see a voice of reason here, and with some class.

[fanofthegame]

Rochester is absolutely destroying themselves in the first half of this game.

[medic92]

Rochester is absolutely destroying themselves in the first half of this game.

Yeah they are, and yet they still go into halftime with a lead.

[fanofthegame]

Derek Leonard in his halftime interview "Thats the worst half of football I think we've played." I think id have to agree with him. They should have two more td's on the board, and Alleman's 1 TD drive was aided by the 3 huge Rochester penalties.

[fanofthegame]

Yeah they are, and yet they still go into halftime with a lead.

That is the amazing part about how good they are.

[medic92]

Rochester is taking over now, 24-7.

[The Irish Swede]

Hats off to Rochester. What a machine. That second half was completely different than the first half. Congratulations to the Rockets! Pioneers can still hold their heads high for a great season.

[Irishmike70]

That's one impressive team! Alleman gave it their all but, you guys were too much. The better team won. I think what surprised me most was how good your defense was. I knew how good the offense was going to be going in. The triple option Alleman runs is hard to defend and you guys did it well.